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I've been rather quiet on deviantART lately.  Aside from some casual forum replies and group management stuff, I've been pretty low key.  So, updates: I've been seeing a lot of doctors, mostly of the psychological kind, and also getting all my shit together so Blue Cross insurance is all happy and settled with it all… kind of a pain, but meh, that's how shit goes.  I've also been talking with head doctors about my general depressed me state, which is the only state I really know, and that's been somewhat helpful, actually.  Also talking about my drinking, which tends to be a problem, at times.  So, lots of medical shit, but I'm pretty healthy, aside from all the head/mood shit :lol:  I don't really think that can be fixed, easily, but I'm trying.

But then I've been watching a lot of diabetes videos on youtube.  Sort of the my diabetes story or just people, with diabetes, talking casually about it.  Then I go to a monthly diabetes support group, and aside from that terrible name (I prefer D-Meetup), it's been pretty cool.  Just being around people with a condition you also have.

But I've been thinking about this for a while now, and why the fuck is diabetes so—well—laughed at?  I mean, yeah there's the DIABEETUS thing, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong, please) that people generally hear diabetes and think the person is a fat slob that deserves it.  Then there's the fact that there's two types of diabetes, and I think most people "laugh" at the type 2 diabetics, which yes, is sometimes brought on by exercise and what you eat and how you live your life.  But I'm the other type, the type that's either brought on by heredity or just a fluke of the body when it randomly decides to attack your pancreas.  It's the only medical condition that I can think of that is not really taken seriously.  Or at least, has a reputation.  A sort of "Yeah, that's serious, but I'm still having cynical thoughts in the back of my mind" kind of thing.  You hear cancer, Parkinson's disease, Epilepsy, HIV, and even this new social thing with the ALS ice bucket challenge, and you just think "Man, that sucks.  What can I do?"  But diabetes, and you almost snicker first, then maybe have those thoughts like other conditions.

Or is this just me?
 I'm just thinking that diabetes is laughed at first, then sometimes thought about more seriously.  Is this just me?  I don't really know, since my brain works in strange ways sometimes, and having diabetes, I look at it from a very different perspective.  Anyone care to share some thoughts? :)  

(My last A1C was 6.8, which is pretty good ;)  Non-diabetics are usually in the 5 range, but diabetics in the 6 range is pretty good.  The lower the better.)


Some thoughts about diabetes, and people's perspective on it.
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nosugarjustanger Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014
Yeah I am aware of the 2 types of diabetes, but I only know those who are self-inflicted.

For your case, it's just unfortunate. I do hope that it is under control and not affect your life too much. I think it's the ignorant people who do not know the difference. For those, you must either educate them, or ignore their remarks. :) 

It's the same when I talk about hypothyroidism and most people have no clue at all about it. I try to explain to them, but the ones I don't care about, I just shrug my shoulders and move on. 
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah in some cases I just ignore it, although when the person talking is presenting themselves like they actually know what they're saying, then I raise a fuss.  I actually heard a medical doctor say that both type 1 and type 2 diabetes can be prevented by living a healthy lifestyle.  I almost exploded at that :lol:

For your case, I have no clue about hypothyroidism so I wouldn't even pretend to know.  Although I've had tests done on my thyroid, but not exactly sure what it does or how it affects you.  Isn't it something to do with how your body regulates energy or uses it to build up body mass or something?
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nosugarjustanger Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014
Woah, that doctor sounds like a dick. :stare:

Well, hypothyroidism = slower metabolism. hyperthyroidism = faster metabolism. Both come with their own health problems. For hypothyroidism, you just feel lethargic, tired, sluggish, and you gain weight easily, so you have to be very disciplined when it comes to your diet. :(

For hyperthyroidism, they may experience irregular, fast heartbeat, anxiety, etc. 
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, who knows if I misheard/understood him, but I just had to facepalm.
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rotane Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014   General Artist
One of my mates has diabetes. I hadn't known at first when i met him. But then, one day, we met for some beers, and all of a sudden he whips out his needle and shoots it into his belly as if it was nothing. I had no idea what was going on – but laughing was the last thing on my mind. By now i know how he deals with it (accepting it and almost shrugging it off as if it was indeed nothing), and this is what impresses me the most, i think. 

I don't know why i'm telling you this. I guess, as long as you don't know someone personally who has diabetes (or anything, really), you don't know anything about it – just "what you've heard", which too often is pure nonsense. It's a stereotype, and diabetes happens to be "this thing you get when you eat too much sugar, hurr durr". It sucks, of course, if you're on the receiving end of it, but all you can really do is educate people about it (as you're doing with this journal), or ignore them. 

Anyway, i hope those comments aren't getting to you *too much*, and that you're feeling better! :) 
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Heh yeah, when you have no direct contact with it, it's "the sugar punishment" or whatever.  I think, or hope, people realize it's a lot more complicated in the backs of their minds, just playing along with the game since it's what's popular, but god.  I mean I can laugh at the gross misunderstanding, most of the time, but sometimes it crosses a line with me.

But yeah, generally I'm fine with most of it :)
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shuttermonkey Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I work in healthcare and I know at least here in the Bahamas a lot of people (even some diabetics) I've been in contact with do not understand what diabetes is and what causes it. A general consensus of the person I've interacted with is that it is self inflicted (through eating habits) and no thought is given to person who are genetically predisposed to the disease. 

People in the Bahamas even call it "Sugar Diabetes" because as far as they know that is what causes it even though the wealth of information on the disease says different.

I think persons laugh or find it funny because they feel as though why should I take this serious if they are causing it on themselves? Not that its right but that's the impression i get.

Also 6.8 A1c is great considering the patients i come across 9 times out of 10 have an a1c of 9 or higher and insist that they are eating a controlled diet...Or the patients that come in with a 300 glucose after eating a half loaf of white bread ...
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, as far as I know, the primary factor causing diabetes is that it's a genetic thing.  Sure, eating/lifestyle habits can cause type 2 diabetes, but for type 1, it's basically just genetics or a random fluke.  I think the eating/lifestyle habits is what most people assume causes it, only because that's what tends to be in the media and internet.  I've even seen talks of type 1 diabetics trying to get the terms named differently than simply type 1 and type 2, since while the problem is similar (no insulin or ineffective insulin), the result and managing is pretty different.

And thanks, yeah I'm pretty happy with 6.8.  Sure I'm always trying to get it lower, but 6.8 is the lowest I've been so far.  I attribute that a lot to my continuous monitor.  That really helps with getting on top of your sugar levels.
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semi-surreal Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Folks without diabetes think diabetes is funny because they picture diabetics sitting in a tub full of sugar going "nom, nom, nom...mmm...sugaaar...."

hahaa!
*Legal Disclaimer: For Entertainment Purposes Only - diabetics should not be made fun of*

Here's what my favorite psychologist, Richard Bandler [not that I go to psychologists -- yet] says about depression & stuff:
youtu.be/SBlTu94mR7w

I hope you get better & feel better, buddy.
Good news for me, by the way: I've been approved for 100% free "0bamaCare" - yaaay!  [ILL-inois (pun intended) Medicaid, that is]
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:iconelectricjonny:
electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
"If you don't know what fun feels like, you really don't know what to strive for", heh yeah.  I think I connect with that ;)
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semi-surreal Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
haha, you need to "get out of the house" more!

I love Bandler; he's the inventor of modern, cognitive, success-based psychology - known as NLP: neuro-linguistic programming.
Check out more of those videos (listed on the side) - or resort to "medicinal" marijuana.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I actually have a book, NLP-The New Technology of Achievement-Neuro-linguistic programming, edited by Steve Andreas and Charles Faulkner. … Been meaning to read it, since a good friend recommended it to me, but… most of this seems bogus, to me.  Right now.

Give it a try, perhaps?
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semi-surreal Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
haha, so Sigmund Freud [called "SickMan Fraud" by Bandler] telling you that you want to do yo' mama and kill yo' daddy is more plausible?
Bandler never uses (bizarre) "theories" - his techniques are actually an elegant compilation of 100%-successful behaviors by several world-renowned psychotherapists + 100%-successful behaviors by independent clients who literally cured themselves (with similar universal techniques) without formal psychotherapy. So, by definition, we know they "work"!

Of course give it a try.  I highly recommend the best NLP "beginner" book:  Using Your Brain For A Change.  Get it right now on Amazon, and let me know how much it helps you.

And don't go wasting your time on wikipedia...which has an obvious & extreme bias against NLP [presumably because "paid-by-the-hour" Freudian "psychologists" contribute heavily to wiki -- whereas, contributing NLP practitioners (who get paid "by their success", like lawyers on a contingency fee) are few in number in the world, unfortunately].

Steve Andreas is an outstanding editor; he did Bandler's great book "Frogs Into Princes" in 1979, too.  It's best, though, to start with "Using Your Brain For A Change" for now...do it!

hahaa...YO' MAMA...!
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I'll look into it, thanks :nod:
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The-Build Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I didn't know you have diabetes, I do however, have some knowledge of type 2, so know it's never as clear cut as being tied to diet.

Trouble is people do, a bit like things such as carpal tunnel, they assume that a one size fits all (in terms of cause) is the reason behind it.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Heh yeah, it's never really one size fits all, for really anything.  This disease, and I'm sure just about all other diseases, are all just conditional.  Person A has X and person B has Y, so XYZ or whatever.  It's just not as simple as "the internet" tends to make it.
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The-Build Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I wonder where these misconceptions come from? Unfortunately it seems all too prevalent. 
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I've noticed that with most things "on the net", it comes down to headlines or the shortest and quickest ways to wrap something up.  People don't have time to research and take in the full picture; they just want a sentence to put things in their place.
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The-Build Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think that in itself, is dangerous, accepting something (without direct sources of proof) as fact without looking into it for yourself is a bad idea.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah really.  Which is why so many things on facebook and other places piss me off so much.  Rather than tell a story, a headline is just constructed to gain pageviews or shares or talk.  Like "the internet is running out of space" to explain the ebay/lastpass/other internet outages that happened last week.

I see my facebook timeline and just know that headlines are there because a person clicked like without probably even opening up the page.  Which leads to things like the KFC story about asking a scarred girl to leave, which reportedly maybe never even happened.

But kids are stupid on the net today, so I'm not really surprised :shrug:
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The-Build Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The ADHD and ADD one is my bug bear at the moment, amazing what a little reading into things does.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Heh, yeah I think those things are also one of those popular misconceived (disorders, diseases?)  things out there, right now at least.
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
My best friend of teenage years was diagnosed with diabetes (I think it was type 2) when we were 13-14, and she felt hesitant to talk about it. She's really skinny and ate less sweets than I've ever done, but... :shrug: My granny has the diabetes of ol' age, so I guess I've never really thought about my reactions to it... It just happens to some people, by DNA things or lifestyle choices. Of course, I admit, sometimes if I see certain body types and hear they've got it, I'm not surprised... but I don't laugh at them, and I don't mock them. My own lifestyle isn't the healthiest in the world (currently munching on a slice of apple pie, I have Mountain Dew bottle and white-strawberry chocolate right next to me as I'm typing this), so... who am I to judge people's choices? :dummy: (When talking of diabetes caused by lifestyle choices; heritage is not something you can really work around with.) And well, stuff like that can also happen to people who are careful and take precautions not to 'get' a medical condition of any kind.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks :)

So, based on your upbringing and knowing people, you don't really "laugh" at it, as I tend to think most people do?  I think a lot of people at least know someone with diabetes.  Maybe that changes things.  But I just see the internet and see laughter all around diabetes.  It really sort of depresses me.
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I think it's because those who have someone with diabetes in the social circles, they know better than to laugh. With Internet though, the thing is, it's so easy to laugh at strangers and mock them, because they don't really each other, probably never will, face to face anyway. Internet is full of sobs who've nothing else to do in their lives but to bring others down... It's a cliché, but things said on the Internet are better ignored unless it's coming from people you've known one way or another for a long time... that's how I react to Internet anyway. ^^; But... it can be depressing, yeah, and it's not always easy to try to just shrug it off. :(
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Heh yeah, I think you nailed it: on the internet, people just mock you.  Quite contrary, as this is an internet posting ;)  But again, thanks for the input.  I just see "internet behavior" and assume everyone acts like that.  Good to know that's not always true :)
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, there are inklings of hope out there, that the people on the 'Net are not always so cruel and selfish and narrow-minded... ;P hehee.
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm happy to hear that :D
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:ahoy: It's easy to forget the good things among the bad ones. ^^
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electricjonny Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Heh, it is :ahoy:
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